Monday, September 12, 2016

David Allen Piatt video/ Interview

DAVID:          Oh, technology.
ANDREW:     We are here in Manchester, Ohio with David Allen Piatt and he's about to give a presentation about his Ohio ancestors, and here's David.
DAVID:          Like I said -- like Andrew said, we're here in Manchester Island.  Actually, this is called Twin Islands now.  The islands came into the Piatt family's possession after the Revolutionary War.  They were given -- soldiers were given a thousand acres and then some of the commanders were given more lake region stuff, and so that's how this part of it's that we owned land on the Ohio side.  The Piatt family was (indiscernible) in Ohio.  The Piatt family was in Kentucky.  As a matter fact, most of the Piatt's were actually in Kentucky and farmed the fields and bottoms on the Kentucky side of the river as much as they did over here.  In this -- actually geographically, there was not as much bottom ground on the Ohio side.  We had to go up on top of the hills to get up to where the flat was, in Ohio.  So this was a lot easier in Kentucky to farm and get to the river for shipping and putting stuff on the flat bottom boats and stuff. 
The family lived here and had a -- pretty much a huge, big square, a three-story house that sat in the middle of what was at the time a hundred and eighty acre, one big island and stuff.  It was that way for years and years.  The 1913 flood, some of the others had been in the -- on the island and stuff, hadn't been around the house and things.  But the '37 flood, which was the one that really, you know, affected the family the most was when the water came up in '37, it came up quickly.  It was in January.  It was a muddy, mar -- a mess, everything, and they moved things, like they always did, to the second level so if the river came up and got in the first level --well, then the water kept coming so they ended up moving everything to the third level.
But when they would move things to the third level, they evacuated the family and got the family and stuff out of here.  And within just a few hours, the water was already above the second level and then, finally it went into the third level and then finally over the house, at 70-some feet through here in this area, which the water was from mount -- hill to hill.
When the flood went down, the '37 flood was over, the house had washed up -- the main home had washed away.  The -- there were 13 cabins that the -- some of the slaves that had been freed were -- still lived there with the family and stuff on the island and helped take care and cooked and things like that.  They were never treated as slaves.  They were just -- they were there and were allowed to stay.  And some of them -- we had talked about the Underground Railroad.  Some of them were actually from the Underground Railroad that just came there and stayed on the island and helped farm and things like that.  Kind of like a sharecropping version of what would we call them today.
When the water went down, the island was about half the size it was originally and it was two islands.  It -- the -- it washed through the center of it and stuff.  There had always been a gully there but it washed it two -- and now there's two separate islands in the Ohio River.  So that's pretty much what you find today, is the two Twin Islands.
In 1978, the Department of -- well, the state of Ohio first came in and approached the family about turning it over to the state of Ohio.  Being in -- on the Ohio River, it was a Corps of Engineers kind of a thing where they kept having to make the channel and blah blah blah.  So the state wanted the island, so the island ended up coming into the hands of the state of Ohio.  And then soon after that, the federal government turned it into a national wildlife preserve.  So this is actually our protected federal lands now where they -- for the bird sanctuaries and stuff like that, that live on the island and stuff. 
So pretty much the islands were in our family until 1978, from the Revolutionary War times when they were granted to some of the family.
Now, we're going to leave here and we're going over to the Manchester Cemetery that's in the middle of town and we're going to look at some of the Piatt family that's buried over on this side of the river.  There's also more family on the Kentucky side.  In the Ohio, there was no requirement for marked graves, so there's actually several homesteads that go off of the sides that we don't have marked graves on that we know where the -- what they call the hearthstones, where some of the original cabins and things were actually at.  The stones have survived.  So there's some different cabins and things around this area. 
But the families were large families.  They had lots of kids to manage and farm all this property.  You know, you're talking a horse and a mule and farming thousands of acres of bottomland --
ANDREW:     And David, you mentioned that some of your ancestors had eighteen or twenty-one kids?
DAVID:          Right.  Got my -- my grandfather was one of twenty-one, and his dad was one of eighteen.  Four wives.  They lost -- had been married and lost four wives in childbirth, which was a pretty much common thing back in that day.  And then they just married somebody else and started having more kids with the next wife and stuff.  So my grandfather was actually -- he had twenty-one brothers and sisters.  He was only related to three of them.  But the family farm outside of Vanceburg (phonetic) going Route 8 is still there where Rick -- Don Piatt -- not the one from Ohio -- the Don Piatt that was my grandfather's brother, immediate brother.  The family -- his family still lives in those houses over on the Kentucky side of the river.  Actually, right now, I know six homes all the way down through St. Paul that were actually originally Piatt homesteads that are all still there where these kids got married, had families and built houses right there on the farms.  So they owned everything for miles down the river and there's a lot of that stuff still there.
ANDREW:     I see.  Well, thank you.  I'm moving down toward the river to take a closer look at the other shoreline. 
DAVID:          This is actually the narrow part of the river.  It's much wider on the other side.  It's fairly narrow between the two islands but it opens up far more on the Kentucky side.  And then before the dams were built in the '50s, you could actually, most of the time, take a horse and wagon right across to the island.  So it was quite easy to -- it's not like you had to cross all this water.  Many, many times during the summers, the Ohio River would be dry.  There'd be no navigation possible on the Ohio River because they weren't (phonetic) anything.  They built dams in the '20s that brought up -- they could control some of the water level, but the bottom line was most of the time, over on the Kentucky side you could just ride that wagon right across for months during the summer and --
ANDREW:     I see.
DAVID:          -- and there was no water.  So…
ANDREW:     I see.  Well, let's go to the cemetery.

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I made this video to show connections between Henry M. Cist who was Donn Piatt's lawyer in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Underground Railroad was a close community who helped with the Abolitionist Movement. It makes sense to me that the Piatt family trusted Mr. Cist with there real estate holding and other personal legal concerns. Henry M. Cist and Donn Piatt and Lewis J. Cist made trips together to the opening of the Chicamaqua Battlefield Museum in Georgia. Lewis J. Cist used this time and personal connections to acquire many Civil War soldier's autograph and personal stories to preserve. This has been documented in the auction catalog from Bang's Co. in New York City in 1886-87 . My reference copy has all the hammered auction prices for each catalog.